Wednesday, April 1, 2009

Ignatieff Dissapoints

The following Ignatieff quote was recently brought to my attention:
"Adopting lesser evils is that, in a War on Terror, we simply cannot adhere to the existing rule of law as written. If we do, we inevitably will give terrorists the advantage. We cannot abandon the rule of law, however, because this would betray our institutions. To defeat terror, therefore, we will be compelled to traffic in evil, i.e., strategies like indefinite detention of suspects on lower standards of probable cause, coercive interrogations that fall just short of torture, targeted assassinations of terrorist suspects, and even preemptive war. Sadly, the issue is not whether we are going to do these things—America is doing most of them already. The issue is whether we can do these things, yet keep them under democratic control to ensure that America does not lose the soul and substance of its free institutions."

The paper in which it was written can be found here.

This gentleman seems to be absent morality. Targeted assassinations of "suspects" are akin to murder; individuals have a right to a fair trial. Preemptive war is of the same nature, as you are causing harm to those who have committed no crime. I will never vote for a party with this individual at its head.

12 comments:

Christopher said...

Ha, ha, ha, a look at early American history shows that these techniques are nothing new.. The KKK comes to mind.. America's involvement in South America..

Josh said...

Right. . .which legitimizes his position as rational and one we should support?

Chris said...

The point is that he is invoking a past that didn't exist. That's the point.

Josh said...

Which makes him worse?

Christopher said...

No, it makes him dishonest, ignorant, or foolish. Take your pick.

Josh said...

Right; so you wouldn't vote for him either right?

Christopher said...

I'm not a liberal.

Josh said...

So you wouldn't vote for him?

Christopher said...

I find his statement about the laws very troubling.

Josh said...

But you maintain there is a possibility you could vote for him?

Christopher said...

I think that the liberal platform has many positive aspects, and I think that the elite is acting the way it is acting out of fear, not conspiracy. That's why their legistion is only a partial "attack" on rights. If they wanted to get rid of all rights, they wouldn't do it piecemeal. They'd find a demogogue and go fascist. But they aren't, because they believe in those rights while simultaneously being afraid of terrorists. That's what I think.

Josh said...

I'm not a conspiracy theorist. Noone should have the right to revoke rights for any reason and should not be excused for doing so.