Tuesday, December 30, 2008

Police Uses Excessive Force to Detain Criminals

A random sample of ER physicians were surveyed and 99.8 percent said excessive force is used to arrest and detain suspects.

Read the article from Yahoo! News here.

I'm glad the state is here protect me, aren't you?

7 comments:

Chris said...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but even a libertarian state would need a policy force to protect private property and rights, right? I therefore don't see your complaint making any sense unless you are an anarchist. Are you an anarchist?

Josh said...

Some libertarians advocate protection to be left to the private sector, as well as the judicial system.

I'm not sold on that idea. There is a place for a police force, however it should be supported locally.

None of this doesn't mean we can't complain when police officers abuse innocent civilians.

Douglas Porter said...

"Some libertarians advocate protection to be left to the private sector, as well as the judicial system."

I.E. the end of democracy and the final step in the United States' move to corporate authoritarianism.

"I'm not sold on that idea. There is a place for a police force, however it should be supported locally. "

There should be one local and federal. Unless, of course, you are silly enough to believe that local authority is somehow better.

"None of this doesn't mean we can't complain when police officers abuse innocent civilians."

It does when you take the power away from the people and put it in the hands of the corporations. The less diverse the wellspring of government is, the more likely there will be abuse.

Josh said...

"I.E. the end of democracy and the final step in the United States' move to corporate authoritarianism"

Yea... I never said that I support this. Just saying some libertarians do.

"There should be one local and federal. Unless, of course, you are silly enough to believe that local authority is somehow better."

Of course they are better, they're more responsible to their constituents.

Why is a federal police force needed?

"It does when you take the power away from the people and put it in the hands of the corporations. The less diverse the wellspring of government is, the more likely there will be abuse."

I'm not sure why this means that I can't complain when the police abuses innocent people...

Chris said...

"Of course they are better, they're more responsible to their constituents."

The CONSTITUTION allows for an interstate police force, JOSH! This is what I'm talking about. Lying about the facts!

"I'm not sure why this means that I can't complain when the police abuses innocent people..."

Because you are asserting that police power = corrput state power.

"Of course they are better, they're more responsible to their constituents."

Patent silliness. Maybe in a Greek city-state this would be true, but not in modern states that have millions or tens of millions of people.

Josh said...

"The CONSTITUTION allows for an interstate police force, JOSH! This is what I'm talking about. Lying about the facts!"

Who mentioned the constitution?

"Because you are asserting that police power = corrput state power."

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The more power the police have, the more they can get away with corruption, the more corrupt they'll be. Noone wants a police state, not even you. Government power is typically more corrupt and is more likely to be more corrupt is because they can get away with it easier. They write the laws and they have the power. So I see nothing wrong with highlighting moments of obvious state corruption.

"Patent silliness. Maybe in a Greek city-state this would be true, but not in modern states that have millions or tens of millions of people."

I think the police force should be much more local than the state, but that's just me.

Chris said...

"Who mentioned the constitution?"

Me. I did. In response to your anti-constitutional arguments.


Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The more power the police have, the more they can get away with corruption, the more corrupt they'll be. Noone wants a police state, not even you."

True, but I would never use police brutality as an example of why we need to eliminate government programs. That sort of reasoning is patently illogical.

"Government power is typically more corrupt and is more likely to be more corrupt is because they can get away with it easier."

I totally disagree. Corporations paying slave wages is just as corrupt.

"They write the laws and they have the power. So I see nothing wrong with highlighting moments of obvious state corruption."

There is no "they". There is the people who support them, the philosophies that create the political climate, and the actions they make - nothing else.

Using government corruption as a way of slandering legimate government initiatives is immoral, because it is lying.

"I think the police force should be much more local than the state, but that's just me."

I agree, but I also support state and federal police, beacuse local policy can not respond to state or federal crimes. OBVIOUSLY>>>