Thursday, March 11, 2010

Interesting Video Of Obama



While its obvious government has a monopoly over violence, its interesting to hear the president, or any democrat, say these words out loud.

8 comments:

Chris said...

Lol, Josh is surprised that someone else know about rule by force. Jesus Christ, Mao said as much 50 years ago, and he was a communist. Don't try an claim that argument X is the result Ron Paul when it is obviously not.

Furlong said...

Government's monopoly on violence is inherit in its existence. I'm sure this has been realized and talked about well beyond Ron Paul.

I'm simply saying, politicians often don't say what they know to be true, because that is not good politiking. Obama saying out loud that the government has a monopoly of violence is not a political winner, therefore its odd to see him saying it out loud. That's all.

Chris said...

Er, it is rather basic knowledge, Josh. Anyone who has seen a police office, solider, or who has read Thomas Hobbes know this.

"I'm simply saying, politicians often don't say what they know to be true, because that is not good politiking. Obama saying out loud that the government has a monopoly of violence is not a political winner, therefore its odd to see him saying it out loud. That's all."

Um, Obama is push forward a health care bill that is hated by the left and right. Are you sure you are thinking this through?

Furlong said...

"Um, Obama is push forward a health care bill that is hated by the left and right. Are you sure you are thinking this through?"

You don't think this is politics?

Give me a break. My bet is that Obama thinks the insurance companies support in the next election is more important than the points he'll lose in the poll for supporting the plan.

If health care was Obama standing on some sort of principle, he's be pushing through at the very least a public option, at the most single-payer. Otherwise, he's just handing the insurance companies an oligarchy over health care.

Chris said...

"You don't think this is politics?

Give me a break. My bet is that Obama thinks the insurance companies support in the next election is more important than the points he'll lose in the poll for supporting the plan."

Methinks you don't understand that without a big portion of the social democrats, he will lose.

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If health care was Obama standing on some sort of principle, he's be pushing through at the very least a public option, at the most single-payer. Otherwise, he's just handing the insurance companies an oligarchy over health care."

We were talking about whether Obama is controversial or not. I think I won on this point.

Furlong said...

"We were talking about whether Obama is controversial or not. I think I won on this point."

Again, whether or not he is controversial (which he obviously is); that he state out loud the reality behind government I find interesting.

Chris said...

Well, that is very interesting, Josh, but it is basic, first year political theory.

Chris said...

Just to sink your boat: You are not "just asking questions". You are reading a bunch of propaganda, accepting it as being true without thought, and then pretending that you are simply "asking questions".