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First of all, the below song by Ash Soular is not AGAINST change. The song is obviously against Obama's change because it is not change. She pegs him as a hypocrite and Obama proved it during his campaign as he spoke out against FISA and then voted for it. He's for more war, more murder.
The attack on this amateur song-writer is solely fueled by one line in which she communicates some conservative thoughts against big government spending and high taxation. I guess its our job to randomly tear apart individuals who voice their opinions on YouTube? Very constructive.
Music from the 60s was not against conservatism generally. It was against big intrusive government causing wars that harm millions of people. It was against corporatism and big government. See: American Woman.
Remember, Barry Goldwater was the peace candidate as a conservative in 64 and lost by a landslide. George McGovern was the peace candidate as a liberal in 72 and lost by a landslide. Whether on the left, or the right, these types of candidates will never be elected because the powers at be profit from war and big government. This has nothing to do with socialized health care or a social safety net. The profits gained by big corporations from weapons sales and military contracts will always ensure the president is on the side of war.
This music comes out against the state. Yes, some of these artists lean more left than they do right, but that doesn't not mean the left has a monopoly on political music.
Here's a tune both those on the left and the right could find common ground with from 1967:
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Yes, it is against change. It assumes the categories of business that have existed for thousands of years. It is against change.
Obama might be a hypocrite not actually for change, but that doesn't mean she is for change. She is a reactionary in favor of reverting back to a primitive state of affairs.
As for attacks on her, judging by the YouTube comments I would say the attack is from the far right in the form of a loud whining sound. And no, I'm not just attacking her because she is a neanderthal. I'm attacking her because she used "obamanation" as the title for her little whinefest.
Music from the sixties was against conservatism. Bob Dylan and John Lennon did not sing songs about "big government" and "abominations". If you would like to pick through their lyrics song by song to prove they were anti-conservatives I will more than oblige you.
"Remember, Barry Goldwater was the peace candidate as a conservative in 64 and lost by a landslide. George McGovern was the peace candidate as a liberal in 72 and lost by a landslide. Whether on the left, or the right, these types of candidates will never be elected because the powers at be profit from war and big government. This has nothing to do with socialized health care or a social safety net. The profits gained by big corporations from weapons sales and military contracts will always ensure the president is on the side of war."
This might be true.
I never said the left had a monopoly on political music. I said it is very sad when the right uses liberal style music to try and gain followers.
"Yes, it is against change. It assumes the categories of business that have existed for thousands of years."
How?
"but that doesn't mean she is for change"
Doesn't mean she is against it either.
"She is a reactionary in favor of reverting back to a primitive state of affairs."
Which lyrics support this?
"judging by the YouTube comments"
Please don't ever use this as a reference again.
"I'm not just attacking her because she is a neanderthal."
How is she a neanderthal?
"I'm attacking her because she used "obamanation" as the title for her little whinefest."
Why does this make her worth attacking? You feel a strong urge to defend Obama and attack all that oppose him?
"If you would like to pick through their lyrics song by song to prove they were anti-conservatives I will more than oblige you."
No thank you.
"I said it is very sad when the right uses liberal style music to try and gain followers."
I didn't know the left had a defined style of music that only they are allowed to utilize.
"How?"
Because there is change from what was/is to something new and change back to what was. She is for the latter, which means, in essence, that she is not for change.
"Doesn't mean she is against it either."
When the only alternative to "Obamanation" is what has existed for thosands of years, yes, that's what it means.
"Which lyrics support this?"
"Obamanation".
"Please don't ever use this as a reference again."
You brought the reference up, Bubbles. I won't use it again if you don't use it again.
"How is she a neanderthal?"
She supports an earlier state of affairs. A neanderthal is an earlier state of affairs.
"Why does this make her worth attacking?"
Abomination.
"You feel a strong urge to defend Obama and attack all that oppose him?"
No, just the New Deal and unionization.
"No thank you."
Of course not. Doing so would broaden your horizon so much that you'd have to discard this silly position.
"I didn't know the left had a defined style of music that only they are allowed to utilize."
Let me put it this way, Josh: If a bunch of country singers wearing cowboy hats, jeans, and flannel shirts were to try and use the style of the International (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvXBNnpHFDI) to try and convert followers of liberalism to conservatism it just wouldn't work.
"Because there is change from what was/is to something new and change back to what was. She is for the latter, which means, in essence, that she is not for change. "
I should have been clearer. Please quote her lyrics that support your argument. Clarifying this will actually help me understand much of the argument you're making.
"No, just the New Deal and unionization. "
She mentioned the new deal and unionization?
"Doing so would broaden your horizon so much that you'd have to discard this silly position."
Doing so would take too much of my time. If you would like to prove me wrong you can show me the lyrics and I will not argue this point. However I do not care enough to put any effort into this point.
"I should have been clearer. Please quote her lyrics that support your argument. Clarifying this will actually help me understand much of the argument you're making."
"Obamanation".
"She mentioned the new deal and unionization?"
"Obamanation" is enough for me to know her entire outlook, which is conservative.
""I should have been clearer. Please quote her lyrics that support your argument. Clarifying this will actually help me understand much of the argument you're making."
"Obamanation".
"She mentioned the new deal and unionization?"
"Obamanation" is enough for me to know her entire outlook, which is conservative."
You're refusing the properly answer my question.
Nope. "Obamanation" = Christian outlook.
Wow. I didn't realize. Thanks for the clarification......
You're welcome. Abomination of the Lord!
i still don't get it.
Abomination is a word used by Christians. Who else uses it? Abomination is a world used by those who know the truth about morality. Who else knows the truth other than religious people? What religion is the dominant religion in our society?
Funny, I never linked that word to Christianity. I suppose its impossible for this person to not be a Christian?
No, not impossible, but definately a used more by Christians. If she is a libertarian, then it just goes to show the ties that ideology has to Christianity.
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